Comments on: W-Space – Why you not random?

By: Ronnie

Tue, 06 Dec 2016 13:30:23 +0000

For now i downloaded the Eve static data dump. Which has data on all systems. K-Space as well as W-Space. So i know exactly how many systems there are.

For some reason W-Space systems are also grouped in Regions. This might have an effect on which systems connect with which. The more a read about wormholes the more interesting it gets 🙂

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By: Katia Sae

Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:50:50 +0000

For me, and I know not all, but really fun and interesting to work with. Keep it up, let me know your continued results. Currently, I’m reviewing the data and looking at the K162’s to see if any interesting patterns emerge.

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By: Ronnie

Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:15:52 +0000

i was thinking about extending this program so i can also run some simulations on W-space to low-sec/high-sec/null-sec systems. And what we should expect here based on pure randomness.

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By: Ronnie

Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:12:45 +0000

i don’t know if you can program but find the program below. Its in python.

To keep it simple i used the following assumptions
– there are 2500 W-space systems
– W-space systems are numbered 1 to 2500
– every W-space connection from thera has an equal chance of appearing

I run the simulation 1000 times and count how many wormholes i get to explore
before the first duplicate. This is equal to drawing random numbers between 1 and 2500 until i get a number i already had.

import random

experimentmax = 1000
iterationmax = 1000
random.seed()
results = []

for exp in range(1,experimentmax):
wh_explored = []
for iteration in range(1,iterationmax):
wh_new = int(random.random()*2500)+1
if wh_explored.count(wh_new) > 0:
print iteration
results.append(iteration)
break
else:
wh_explored.append(wh_new)

print “average = “, sum(results)/float(len(results))

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By: Katia Sae

Fri, 02 Dec 2016 23:40:44 +0000

That’s really interesting and thanks for sharing that. Makes me shake my head even more with the odds I was faced with. Just seems like there has to be something going on, but haven’t found it yet.

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By: Ronnie

Fri, 02 Dec 2016 11:35:49 +0000

Hi,

looking at your observation of finding a duplicate wormhole from theta after exploring only 17 systems i wrote this small program to check what would be the chance if it was truly random.

I simulated 1000 people doing this experiment.
exploring 1000 random systems and seeing after how many tries they get their first duplicate.

The average seems to be that after around 62 tries you get your first duplicate.

number of people encountering a duplicate within the first 30: 151 (15.1%)
number of people encountering a duplicate within the first 20: 69 (6.9 %)
number of people encountering a duplicate within the first 10: 12 (1.2 %)

So i guess you just got your first duplicate very early

This is a fun experiment 🙂

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By: jasperwillem

Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:43:10 +0000

Good, looking forward to it.

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By: Katia Sae

Mon, 22 Aug 2016 08:41:12 +0000

Absolutely and thanks for pointing that out. I should have the write-up out in a week or two.

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By: jasperwillem

Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:36:14 +0000

“Entire constellations of wormholes are grouped by their statics. In other words, if a C2 has static C2/Lows, every other wormhole in the same constellation will have the same statics. This is based on the way wormholes are stored and calculated by the server.”

Did you consider this?

Found here: http://wormholes.info/wordpress/about-wormholes-classes-of-wormhole/

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By: Pileto

Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:51:25 +0000

Well I think a part of what you’re looking for is here:
http://wormholes.info/wordpress/about-wormholes-wormhole-maps/

And mostly the last picture down there -> http://wormholes.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lolspiral.png
That kind of sets the WH systems by class and their overall position according to known K-space. Now, you might connect that map with some data about the wh connections between systems with an approximate distance in light years. You’ll need a lot of statistical data for this though. And there maybe you can find that pattern, you’re looking for.

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